Weird Garmin 3250 aberrations

[Greasy Rider]

Took a jaunt into unfamiliar territory a few hundred miles from home base. Plugged in a legitimate address.We proceeded merrily a few miles, the "lying bitch" told us to turn right, etc, etc. Wound up in someone's private driveway and had to back out. She then gave us legitimate directions.

On the return trip as we neared home it had us exit a four lane super slab. Just for shits and giggles we took the advice. The device promptly had us reenter the super slab on the other side of the clover leaf.

Anyone else have strange events like that or is it my "lying bitch" playing games with me? It was updated recently with the latest maps and software.....

[Ed Pawlowski]

Post by Greasy Rider
the "lying bitch" told us to turn right, etc, etc. Wound up in someone's private driveway and had to back out.

Did it look like a street?

Post by Greasy Rider
On the return trip as we neared home it had us exit a four lane super slab. Just for shits and giggles we took the advice. The device promptly had us reenter the super slab on the other side of the clover leaf.

The computer did what it was programmed to do. Check if you have it set
for shortest or fastest for starters as the other setting may have made
a difference.

It makes a lot of sense to you to stay on the highway. The program in
the computer has no common sense and it may have seen the off and on
again would save 100 yards of travel so it sent you that way. Yes, I've
run into a couple of those routes.

Going to a pier in Gloucester MA the on line instructions saif to not
use the gps and follow their instructions. Curious I tried and it took
us over a 1/4 mile up the road.

We rented a villa in Santa Maria de Castellebate in Italy and has a
similar instruction. It said to go two exits farther on the highway
than what the gps said. Later that week I followed the gps and the gps
took us through a town with lots of slow moving traffic.

[Greasy Rider]

Post by Ed Pawlowski
Did it look like a street?

Yes...even had a name. Problem was it was nine miles off target.

Post by Ed Pawlowski
The computer did what it was programmed to do. Check if you have it set
for shortest or fastest for starters as the other setting may have made
a difference.

I had previously selected fastest route. Going through a cloverleaf intersection rather than staying on the super slab would have saved perhaps 11 feet

[Bert]

Post by Greasy Rider
Anyone else have strange events like that or is it my "lying bitch"
playing games with me? It was updated recently with the latest maps
and software.....

More often than I'd like. According to the folks on the Garmin forum,
you should (could) report such routing errors the same way you'd report
an error in the actual map.

Based on the behavior, I concluded that these routing problems are
caused by errors in the underlying description of the roads, like speed
limits, one-way states, existence of traffic lights, etc, even though
the appearance of the road on the map is correct.

[Desh Bouksani]

Post by Bert

Post by Greasy Rider
Anyone else have strange events like that or is it my "lying bitch"
playing games with me? It was updated recently with the latest maps
and software.....

More often than I'd like. According to the folks on the Garmin forum,
you should (could) report such routing errors the same way you'd report
an error in the actual map.
Based on the behavior, I concluded that these routing problems are
caused by errors in the underlying description of the roads, like speed
limits, one-way states, existence of traffic lights, etc, even though
the appearance of the road on the map is correct.

My Garmin Nuvi Guy sometimes tells me to hop off the interstate for an
exit or two for no apparent reason. Happens now and again eastbound on
I-20 between Birmingham and Atlanta.

[Sunshine]

Post by Bert

Post by Greasy Rider
Anyone else have strange events like that or is it my "lying bitch"
playing games with me? It was updated recently with the latest maps
and software.....

More often than I'd like. According to the folks on the Garmin forum,
you should (could) report such routing errors the same way you'd report
an error in the actual map.
Based on the behavior, I concluded that these routing problems are
caused by errors in the underlying description of the roads, like speed
limits, one-way states, existence of traffic lights, etc, even though
the appearance of the road on the map is correct.

I'm sure I'm not right, but I used to pretend that my Nuvi was simply
following the route that the Google car took when it initially drove around
and mapped the area. (See how I mixed Garmin and Google? That's why I'm sure
I'm not right, among other reasons.)

Anyway, I once had the Nuvi tell me to exit an Interstate highway, drive a
quarter mile up a main street away from the highway, make a U-turn in front
of a convenience store, then go back to the highway and continue on my way.
The convenience store located right at the U-turn seemed like too much of a
coincidence.

[Gene E. Bloch]

Post by Sunshine

Post by Bert

Post by Greasy Rider
Anyone else have strange events like that or is it my "lying bitch"
playing games with me? It was updated recently with the latest maps
and software.....

More often than I'd like. According to the folks on the Garmin forum,
you should (could) report such routing errors the same way you'd report
an error in the actual map.
Based on the behavior, I concluded that these routing problems are
caused by errors in the underlying description of the roads, like speed
limits, one-way states, existence of traffic lights, etc, even though
the appearance of the road on the map is correct.

I'm sure I'm not right, but I used to pretend that my Nuvi was simply
following the route that the Google car took when it initially drove around
and mapped the area. (See how I mixed Garmin and Google? That's why I'm sure
I'm not right, among other reasons.)
Anyway, I once had the Nuvi tell me to exit an Interstate highway, drive a
quarter mile up a main street away from the highway, make a U-turn in front
of a convenience store, then go back to the highway and continue on my way.
The convenience store located right at the U-turn seemed like too much of a
coincidence.

Mapping companies have been developing and improving routing software
since at least the late 80's, when I worked for a company that did that,
among other things.

Moreover, the company and its competitors weren't all that new at that
time...

[Sunshine]

Post by Gene E. Bloch

Post by Sunshine

Post by Bert

Post by Greasy Rider
Anyone else have strange events like that or is it my "lying bitch"
playing games with me? It was updated recently with the latest maps
and software.....

More often than I'd like. According to the folks on the Garmin forum,
you should (could) report such routing errors the same way you'd report
an error in the actual map.
Based on the behavior, I concluded that these routing problems are
caused by errors in the underlying description of the roads, like speed
limits, one-way states, existence of traffic lights, etc, even though
the appearance of the road on the map is correct.

I'm sure I'm not right, but I used to pretend that my Nuvi was simply
following the route that the Google car took when it initially drove around
and mapped the area. (See how I mixed Garmin and Google? That's why I'm sure
I'm not right, among other reasons.)
Anyway, I once had the Nuvi tell me to exit an Interstate highway, drive a
quarter mile up a main street away from the highway, make a U-turn in front
of a convenience store, then go back to the highway and continue on my way.
The convenience store located right at the U-turn seemed like too much of a
coincidence.

Mapping companies have been developing and improving routing software
since at least the late 80's, when I worked for a company that did that,
among other things.
Moreover, the company and its competitors weren't all that new at that
time...

Right, but it was still fun to pretend that I was on to something.

[Gene E. Bloch]

Post by Sunshine

Post by Gene E. Bloch

Post by Sunshine

Post by Bert

Post by Greasy Rider
Anyone else have strange events like that or is it my "lying bitch"
playing games with me? It was updated recently with the latest maps
and software.....

More often than I'd like. According to the folks on the Garmin forum,
you should (could) report such routing errors the same way you'd report
an error in the actual map.
Based on the behavior, I concluded that these routing problems are
caused by errors in the underlying description of the roads, like speed
limits, one-way states, existence of traffic lights, etc, even though
the appearance of the road on the map is correct.

I'm sure I'm not right, but I used to pretend that my Nuvi was simply
following the route that the Google car took when it initially drove around
and mapped the area. (See how I mixed Garmin and Google? That's why I'm sure
I'm not right, among other reasons.)
Anyway, I once had the Nuvi tell me to exit an Interstate highway, drive a
quarter mile up a main street away from the highway, make a U-turn in front
of a convenience store, then go back to the highway and continue on my way.
The convenience store located right at the U-turn seemed like too much of a
coincidence.

Mapping companies have been developing and improving routing software
since at least the late 80's, when I worked for a company that did that,
among other things.
Moreover, the company and its competitors weren't all that new at that
time...

Right, but it was still fun to pretend that I was on to something.

I gotta accept that line of reasoning :-)

Looks like I didn't manage to rain on your parade after all...

[Mike Coon]

Post by Gene E. Bloch
Mapping companies have been developing and improving routing software
since at least the late 80's, when I worked for a company that did that,
among other things.
Moreover, the company and its competitors weren't all that new at that
time...

Years ago I amused myself by trying an on-line routing web site
belonging, IIRC, to Michelin. The target location was an industrial
estate right next to a motorway (as they often are).

Their route took me to the motorway next to this estate and stopped.
Presumably I was meant to park illegally on the hard shoulder and
scramble down the bank to the fence around the site...

Mike.

[DaveG]

Post by Mike Coon
Years ago I amused myself by trying an on-line routing web site
belonging, IIRC, to Michelin. The target location was an industrial
estate right next to a motorway (as they often are).
Their route took me to the motorway next to this estate and stopped.
Presumably I was meant to park illegally on the hard shoulder and
scramble down the bank to the fence around the site...

When I need to head south, most of the time my best route is to join the
A19 trunk road. The A19 goes under the river Tyne and I would join it on
the south side of the river at Jarrow. North would involve joining at
the same place and going through the toll tunnel. My Garmin sometimes,
but not always, tries to get me to drive down the river side then turn
right on the A19 at the crossing point of the two roads where the A19 is
50-100ft underground.

Maybe it thinks I've got Pod 5 attached?
(Thunderbirds reference - look it up if you care)

[Gene E. Bloch]

Post by DaveG

Post by Mike Coon
Years ago I amused myself by trying an on-line routing web site
belonging, IIRC, to Michelin. The target location was an industrial
estate right next to a motorway (as they often are).
Their route took me to the motorway next to this estate and stopped.
Presumably I was meant to park illegally on the hard shoulder and
scramble down the bank to the fence around the site...

When I need to head south, most of the time my best route is to join the
A19 trunk road. The A19 goes under the river Tyne and I would join it on
the south side of the river at Jarrow. North would involve joining at
the same place and going through the toll tunnel. My Garmin sometimes,
but not always, tries to get me to drive down the river side then turn
right on the A19 at the crossing point of the two roads where the A19 is
50-100ft underground.
Maybe it thinks I've got Pod 5 attached?
(Thunderbirds reference - look it up if you care)

Have you checked for a ventilation tube? What they suggest *could* be
possible, using the vents. Kidding, of course.

As for Pod 5, Google was kind enough to change my search term to iPod 5,
but they provided a link to change it to what I asked for. Aren't they
nice?

That link found this:
http://tinyurl.com/mpfowd7

Clearly not what you meant.

So I searched for thunderdbirds pod 5 and now I know what you were
talking about.

You don't make it easy for us mere mortals :-)

[DaveG]

Post by Gene E. Bloch
Have you checked for a ventilation tube? What they suggest *could* be
possible, using the vents. Kidding, of course.

As it happens, yes, that is precisely what is there. A glass fronted
building full of large air pumps and a large ventilation tower :-)

http://preview.tinyurl.com/tunnel-pump-house

Post by Gene E. Bloch
As for Pod 5, Google was kind enough to change my search term to iPod 5,
but they provided a link to change it to what I asked for. Aren't they
nice?
http://tinyurl.com/mpfowd7
Clearly not what you meant.
So I searched for thunderdbirds pod 5 and now I know what you were
talking about.
You don't make it easy for us mere mortals

Ah, but look at all the interesting stuff you found while searching :-)

[Gene E. Bloch]

Post by DaveG

Post by Gene E. Bloch
Have you checked for a ventilation tube? What they suggest *could* be
possible, using the vents. Kidding, of course.

As it happens, yes, that is precisely what is there. A glass fronted
building full of large air pumps and a large ventilation tower :-)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/tunnel-pump-house

Post by Gene E. Bloch
As for Pod 5, Google was kind enough to change my search term to iPod 5,
but they provided a link to change it to what I asked for. Aren't they
nice?
http://tinyurl.com/mpfowd7
Clearly not what you meant.
So I searched for thunderdbirds pod 5 and now I know what you were
talking about.
You don't make it easy for us mere mortals

Ah, but look at all the interesting stuff you found while searching :-)

Indeed!

And it was actually fun...

[Moe DeLoughan]

Post by Greasy Rider
Took a jaunt into unfamiliar territory a few hundred miles from
home base. Plugged in a legitimate address.We proceeded merrily a
few miles, the "lying bitch" told us to turn right, etc, etc. Wound
up in someone's private driveway and had to back out. She then gave
us legitimate directions.
On the return trip as we neared home it had us exit a four lane
super slab. Just for shits and giggles we took the advice. The
device promptly had us reenter the super slab on the other side of
the clover leaf.
Anyone else have strange events like that or is it my "lying bitch"
playing games with me? It was updated recently with the latest maps
and software.....

This happens often enough to be why I really can't depend on the GPS.
I use it, but I also keep gazetteer atlases covering the area I'm
traveling in so I can get a big picture and better orient myself. It's
also why I wish there was an option to preselect a route and just have
the device guide me on the selected route.

[Charlie Hoffpauir]

On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 10:34:52 -0500, Moe DeLoughan <***@null.com>
wrote:
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Post by Moe DeLoughan
This happens often enough to be why I really can't depend on the GPS.
I use it, but I also keep gazetteer atlases covering the area I'm
traveling in so I can get a big picture and better orient myself. It's
also why I wish there was an option to preselect a route and just have
the device guide me on the selected route.

You can "sort of" do this if you select waypoints.