Nuvi 2595LMT

On 2015-05-31 20:14:30 +0000, The Real Bev said:

To keep the beanbag mount from slipping on your dash use some Scotch
Double-Coated tape between your dash and the beanbag. It really works
great.

HL

Post by The Real Bev
It seems to be giving brain-dead routing instructions, so I thought I'd
check for updates. I installed Garmin Express blablabla...
It kept telling me that, although I was clearly connected there was
trouble connecting to the Garmin servers. BUT it said I was up to
date, although it didn't know what software version I had or what its
date was. No mention at all of maps. When I tried to check for map
updates at the website it told me to install Garmin Express.
Not happy. The lifetime update feature is why I bought this unit. Now
it appears that Garmin has a much shorter definition of "lifetime" than
I do.
The Nuvi 255 I had previously would say 'recalculating...' when I
ignored her instructions. This one doesn't say anything, she just
keeps urging me to take the next opportunity (including surface streets
that involve going BACK) to go to the route that SHE picked. She also
sent me off on a 16-mile traffic-filled surface route in order to
bypass (presumably) some ephemeral traffic tie-up somewhere up ahead.
I bought this instead of a Magellan because I already have the Garmin
beanbag-type mount -- the stupid car dashboard slopes so I can't set
anything on it and California forbids windshield mounting in a USEFUL
place. I'm beginning to think I made a dreadful mistake.
Is this standard procedure for updating software and/or maps?
...
Update: I went back to try again and lo and behold it figured out that
I need 2 hours worth of updates. Kind of good that I didn't
necessarily believe their initial lie(s), right? This is REALLY
unprofessional, especially for something I actually paid real money for.
I'll be sure to report back if this worked out well or badly :-(

The Real Bev

2015-06-02 04:47:51 UTC

Post by unknown
To keep the beanbag mount from slipping on your dash use some Scotch
Double-Coated tape between your dash and the beanbag. It really works
great.

I only put it up there when I'm actually using it -- a fairly rare
occurrence. The beanbag works as long as it's sort of wedged down where
the dashboard meets the glass. Just one more stupid thing that Cadillac
'engineers' screwed up.

Post by unknown

Post by The Real Bev
Update: I went back to try again and lo and behold it figured out that
I need 2 hours worth of updates. Kind of good that I didn't
necessarily believe their initial lie(s), right? This is REALLY
unprofessional, especially for something I actually paid real money for.

If it's not possible to connect to their servers, they should NOT tell
me that I'm up to date as some sort of default.

Post by unknown

Post by The Real Bev
I'll be sure to report back if this worked out well or badly :-(

Possible differences, but it still insists on ITS route until it decides
that's no longer feasable. Sometimes it says 'right' when it ought to
say 'left' and vice versa. Sometimes it knows I'm in the diamond lane
and sometimes it doesn't. When it's in its 'obstinate' mode it tells me
to take the next off-ramp AFTER I've passed the opening in the diamond
lane for that off-ramp.

All things considered, it needs a lot more options -- diamond lane
whenever possible, freeways only until final exit, offering a selection
of reasonable routes from which to choose, etc.

I will NEVER allow it to route me around traffic again, though.

--
Cheers, Bev
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Don't tax me. Don't tax thee. Tax that man behind the tree.

Howard Lester

2015-06-02 17:12:40 UTC

Post by The Real Bev
I only put it up there when I'm actually using it -- a fairly rare
occurrence. The beanbag works as long as it's sort of wedged down where
the dashboard meets the glass. Just one more stupid thing that Cadillac
'engineers' screwed up.

If it's not possible to connect to their servers, they should NOT tell me
that I'm up to date as some sort of default.

Post by The Real Bev
I'll be sure to report back if this worked out well or badly :-(

Possible differences, but it still insists on ITS route until it decides
that's no longer feasable. Sometimes it says 'right' when it ought to say
'left' and vice versa. Sometimes it knows I'm in the diamond lane and
sometimes it doesn't. When it's in its 'obstinate' mode it tells me to
take the next off-ramp AFTER I've passed the opening in the diamond lane
for that off-ramp.
All things considered, it needs a lot more options -- diamond lane
whenever possible, freeways only until final exit, offering a selection
of reasonable routes from which to choose, etc.
I will NEVER allow it to route me around traffic again, though.
--
Cheers, Bev

"Cheers?" Gee, that all doesn't sound very "cheery," does it?? ;-)

The Real Bev

2015-06-02 21:24:30 UTC

Post by Howard Lester

If it's not possible to connect to their servers, they should NOT tell me
that I'm up to date as some sort of default.

Post by The Real Bev
I'll be sure to report back if this worked out well or badly :-(

Possible differences, but it still insists on ITS route until it decides
that's no longer feasable. Sometimes it says 'right' when it ought to say
'left' and vice versa. Sometimes it knows I'm in the diamond lane and
sometimes it doesn't. When it's in its 'obstinate' mode it tells me to
take the next off-ramp AFTER I've passed the opening in the diamond lane
for that off-ramp.
All things considered, it needs a lot more options -- diamond lane
whenever possible, freeways only until final exit, offering a selection
of reasonable routes from which to choose, etc.
I will NEVER allow it to route me around traffic again, though.
--
Cheers, Bev

"Cheers?" Gee, that all doesn't sound very "cheery," does it?? ;-)

For extremely small values of 'cheer' :-)

--
Cheers, Bev
"It's important to never be arrogant. Especially if you're one
of the little people whose opinion doesn't matter." --Rat

Howard Lester

2015-06-02 22:37:01 UTC

Post by Howard Lester
"Cheers?" Gee, that all doesn't sound very "cheery," does it?? ;-)

For extremely small values of 'cheer' :-)

Well, in an attempt to cheer you up, I had a lot of success with Garmin
phone-tech support not long after I bought my 2599LMT. The woman I talked
with was extremely patient as she guided me through the steps to update the
maps. First she told me to get out of where I was in the Garmin Updates
program, and told me I first need to update Garmin Updates. Once that was
done, she told me to reboot the computer, and we waited and waited.... It
was all very successful. That's not to take away from the fact that the GPS
does some really screwy routing, so yeah, we have to stay on our proverbial
toes.

Ashton Crusher

2015-06-02 21:01:52 UTC

On Sun, 31 May 2015 13:14:30 -0700, The Real Bev

Post by The Real Bev
It seems to be giving brain-dead routing instructions, so I thought I'd
check for updates. I installed Garmin Express blablabla...
It kept telling me that, although I was clearly connected there was
trouble connecting to the Garmin servers. BUT it said I was up to date,
although it didn't know what software version I had or what its date
was. No mention at all of maps. When I tried to check for map updates
at the website it told me to install Garmin Express.
Not happy. The lifetime update feature is why I bought this unit. Now
it appears that Garmin has a much shorter definition of "lifetime" than
I do.
The Nuvi 255 I had previously would say 'recalculating...' when I
ignored her instructions. This one doesn't say anything, she just keeps
urging me to take the next opportunity (including surface streets that
involve going BACK) to go to the route that SHE picked. She also sent
me off on a 16-mile traffic-filled surface route in order to bypass
(presumably) some ephemeral traffic tie-up somewhere up ahead.
I bought this instead of a Magellan because I already have the Garmin
beanbag-type mount -- the stupid car dashboard slopes so I can't set
anything on it and California forbids windshield mounting in a USEFUL
place. I'm beginning to think I made a dreadful mistake.
Is this standard procedure for updating software and/or maps?
...
Update: I went back to try again and lo and behold it figured out that
I need 2 hours worth of updates. Kind of good that I didn't necessarily
believe their initial lie(s), right? This is REALLY unprofessional,
especially for something I actually paid real money for.
I'll be sure to report back if this worked out well or badly :-(

I had a Magellan and it was horrible. I could be parked in front of a
house that was 20 years old in a major city and their map didn't know
it was there.

As to your Garmin problem, I've had a lot of trouble with their
updating program not working properly. It will not work and give the
wrong reasons for what it's not working. I don't think their
programmers know what they hell they are doing. I had to give up
using their update program on my new computer and go back to a 5 year
old vista computer to be able to update my 1455LM unit. Their tech
support was worthless, they just read from a script and have no idea
what they are doing.

Frank

2015-06-02 23:34:58 UTC

Post by The Real Bev
It seems to be giving brain-dead routing instructions, so I thought I'd
check for updates. I installed Garmin Express blablabla...
It kept telling me that, although I was clearly connected there was
trouble connecting to the Garmin servers. BUT it said I was up to date,
although it didn't know what software version I had or what its date
was. No mention at all of maps. When I tried to check for map updates
at the website it told me to install Garmin Express.
Not happy. The lifetime update feature is why I bought this unit. Now
it appears that Garmin has a much shorter definition of "lifetime" than
I do.
The Nuvi 255 I had previously would say 'recalculating...' when I
ignored her instructions. This one doesn't say anything, she just keeps
urging me to take the next opportunity (including surface streets that
involve going BACK) to go to the route that SHE picked. She also sent
me off on a 16-mile traffic-filled surface route in order to bypass
(presumably) some ephemeral traffic tie-up somewhere up ahead.
I bought this instead of a Magellan because I already have the Garmin
beanbag-type mount -- the stupid car dashboard slopes so I can't set
anything on it and California forbids windshield mounting in a USEFUL
place. I'm beginning to think I made a dreadful mistake.
Is this standard procedure for updating software and/or maps?
...
Update: I went back to try again and lo and behold it figured out that
I need 2 hours worth of updates. Kind of good that I didn't necessarily
believe their initial lie(s), right? This is REALLY unprofessional,
especially for something I actually paid real money for.
I'll be sure to report back if this worked out well or badly :-(

I dread updating and don't do it often as sometimes something flaky happens.

Lifetime may be limited by unit, just like computers. Once I could not
do it as it was short of memory and I had to add an sd card.

I note now you can buy sd cards with up to 512 G memory. Pricey now but
who knows where Garmin might be at in 10 years.

I have a mount on the dashboard that looks like a shallow cup holder and
is glued to the dashboard. It came with my first gps and I just left it
there for my Nuvi.

pedro

2015-06-03 08:45:40 UTC

Since getting out of the old updating process and installing Garmin
Express, we have had absolutely no problems regularly updating maps
(and firmware when available) on our Nuvi 760 (with purchased lifetime
updates) and LM 2495LMT.

The Real Bev

2015-06-03 22:35:25 UTC

Post by pedro
Since getting out of the old updating process and installing Garmin
Express, we have had absolutely no problems regularly updating maps
(and firmware when available) on our Nuvi 760 (with purchased lifetime
updates) and LM 2495LMT.

Perhaps I just hit a bad spot with the Garmin servers, then. Still, I'm
amazed that -- once Garmin Express figured out how to (a) connect and
(b) tell the truth -- the download took over 1.5 hours on a 100Mbs
connection, though.

--
Cheers, Bev
----------------------------------------------------------
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public apology saying they were mistaken and there isn't a
house in New Orleans after all.

Ashton Crusher

2015-06-03 22:39:06 UTC

I've had absolutely nothing but trouble with Garmin Express on my Win7
computer.

Maurice

2015-06-04 11:15:16 UTC

Post by Ashton Crusher
I've had absolutely nothing but trouble with Garmin Express on my Win7
computer.

As did I with TomTom's lifetime map update equivalent.
Replaced it with a Garmin Nuvi and found G.Express works smoothly.

Do you try running G.Express as Administrator?
(Right click on the G.Express icon and select that option.)

--
/\/\aurice
(Replace "nomail.afraid" by "bcs" to reply by email)

Ashton Crusher

2015-06-04 19:33:22 UTC

On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 11:15:16 +0000 (UTC), Maurice

Post by Ashton Crusher
I've had absolutely nothing but trouble with Garmin Express on my Win7
computer.

As did I with TomTom's lifetime map update equivalent.
Replaced it with a Garmin Nuvi and found G.Express works smoothly.
Do you try running G.Express as Administrator?
(Right click on the G.Express icon and select that option.)

I spent almost an hour with their tech support. We tried everything.
They came up with some nonsense about a lack of permissions in some
directory for my computers OS. They never figured out the problem. I
installed GE on an older vista computer WHICH HAD THE SAME LACK OF
PERMISSIONS that tech support said was my problem, and it ran fine on
that computer. My conclusion is their tech support has no idea why it
won't work. And realistically, what in the world would need to be so
complicated about a program, GE, to write files to what amounts to an
external USB memory card, that's all it's really doing to update the
map, just writing a new map to their device and perhaps some new code
if they have updated that. It should not be dependent on some crazy
thing buried in the OS for the computer running there data transfer
program. I can only conclude they have built some stupid poorly
functioning Digital Rights Management system to try and keep people
from stealing their maps.

The Real Bev

2015-06-05 20:44:43 UTC

Post by Ashton Crusher
I've had absolutely nothing but trouble with Garmin Express on my Win7
computer.

As did I with TomTom's lifetime map update equivalent.
Replaced it with a Garmin Nuvi and found G.Express works smoothly.

Aside from the update, how do you like the TomTom? I was on the verge
of buying a Magellan when Best Buy had this Garmin on sale for a price
too good to resist.

I don't think it's broken, I just think it (or its master in The Sky) is
stupid.

Post by Maurice
Do you try running G.Express as Administrator?
(Right click on the G.Express icon and select that option.)

I am root in linux and administrator in windows. I don't know how to be
anything else :-)

I have it set for shortest time.

For some reason yesterday it wanted me to avoid a perfectly good
traffic-free freeway in order to drive roughly 10 miles on a main
surface street which would have taken at least half an hour more to
negotiate. I disregarded its order.

--
Cheers, Bev

"When I was a kid my dad once joked that the best way to
prevent being on a plane with someone carrying a bomb
would be to bring your own bomb and not detonate it.
Sounded convincing. What are the odds that two people
board, each with a bomb?" -- Rowdy

Seth

2015-06-05 21:26:01 UTC

Post by Maurice
Do you try running G.Express as Administrator?
(Right click on the G.Express icon and select that option.)

I am root in linux and administrator in windows. I don't know how to be
anything else :-)

But is UAC on or off? If UAC is on applications don't run as admin
level unless you right click and tell them to do so (kind of like
issuing SUDO in Linux).

If the application doesn't launch with admin privs and it is trying to
write data to it's own program folder (C:\Program Files is a protected
location) that could cause issues. I would however be shocked if a
commercial program still was trying to write data there rather than in
the users folder or C:\ProgramData for common data.

Ashton Crusher

2015-06-05 21:52:17 UTC

On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 13:44:43 -0700, The Real Bev

Post by Ashton Crusher
I've had absolutely nothing but trouble with Garmin Express on my Win7
computer.

As did I with TomTom's lifetime map update equivalent.
Replaced it with a Garmin Nuvi and found G.Express works smoothly.

Aside from the update, how do you like the TomTom? I was on the verge
of buying a Magellan when Best Buy had this Garmin on sale for a price
too good to resist.
I don't think it's broken, I just think it (or its master in The Sky) is
stupid.

Post by Maurice
Do you try running G.Express as Administrator?
(Right click on the G.Express icon and select that option.)

I am root in linux and administrator in windows. I don't know how to be
anything else :-)
I have it set for shortest time.
For some reason yesterday it wanted me to avoid a perfectly good
traffic-free freeway in order to drive roughly 10 miles on a main
surface street which would have taken at least half an hour more to
negotiate. I disregarded its order.

It wasn't sure your car would survive the trip on the freeway. Sounds
like you made it though.

The Real Bev

2015-06-06 06:08:24 UTC

Post by Ashton Crusher
I've had absolutely nothing but trouble with Garmin Express on my Win7
computer.

As did I with TomTom's lifetime map update equivalent.
Replaced it with a Garmin Nuvi and found G.Express works smoothly.

Aside from the update, how do you like the TomTom? I was on the verge
of buying a Magellan when Best Buy had this Garmin on sale for a price
too good to resist.
I don't think it's broken, I just think it (or its master in The Sky) is
stupid.

Post by Maurice
Do you try running G.Express as Administrator?
(Right click on the G.Express icon and select that option.)

I am root in linux and administrator in windows. I don't know how to be
anything else :-)

Eventually it downloaded.

Post by The Real Bev
I have it set for shortest time.
For some reason yesterday it wanted me to avoid a perfectly good
traffic-free freeway in order to drive roughly 10 miles on a main
surface street which would have taken at least half an hour more to
negotiate. I disregarded its order.

It wasn't sure your car would survive the trip on the freeway. Sounds
like you made it though.

75-80 in the diamond lane whenever possible. As long as the engine
turns the wheels in the direction I want to go, the [new] tires grip the
road, and the brakes stop the whole assembly I'm OK.

--
Cheers, Bev
------------------------------------------------------
"Don't bother looking for that key. There is no Esc."
-- M. Tabnik

Maurice

2015-06-06 10:49:52 UTC

Post by The Real Bev
how do you like the TomTom?

Seemed OK, but returned it for refund!
(Lifetime maps no good if can't get them!)

--
/\/\aurice
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Aldo Raine

2015-06-04 12:45:38 UTC

I've had absolutely nothing but trouble with Garmin Express on my Win7
computer.

Works fine on my iMac-- unlike the earlier Garmin d/l app iterations
which were so bad I just deleted them and added all files manually.

--
If you don't want minimum wage, don't have minimum skills.

Frank

2015-06-04 13:07:14 UTC

I've had absolutely nothing but trouble with Garmin Express on my Win7
computer.

As I mentioned, its been a crap shoot with me.
Must admit though that last updates of mine on my Win 8.1 computer and
wife's on her Win 7 laptop both went smoothly and took only about a half
hour.

Charlie Roberts

2015-06-04 22:49:26 UTC

On Sun, 31 May 2015 13:14:30 -0700, The Real Bev
<***@gmail.com> wrote:

...
...

Post by The Real Bev
Not happy. The lifetime update feature is why I bought this unit. Now
it appears that Garmin has a much shorter definition of "lifetime" than
I do.

...
...

How new is it? Under warranty? If you think there is something
wrong with the unit, you can get it replaced. Garmin is rather nice.
I am about to write up my experience (long story, but parts were
disclosed a couple of months back). I did get a new unit ...
though there was nothing wrong with the old one! At their
cost, too.

Before you do that, check out what preferences are set for the
routing. Depending on 'Shortest Time', 'Shortest Distance',
and the traffic thingee, you can get different routes. I, personally,
find the traffic thing quite useless and just ignore it.

cr

- Bobb -

2015-07-22 15:34:41 UTC